Are Any Repairs Acceptable On Mooney Ailerons
A320 ailerons during rollout
24th Oct 2022, fourteen:59
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A320 ailerons during rollout
hi busdrivers!
i recently noticed, that the ailerons of A320 with sharklets are existence deflect upwards during rollout without any sidestick input. i'm non 100% sure, just i suppose they deflect upwardly simultaneously with ground spoiler extension to support deceleration. the ailerons of a archetype A320 don't show that "behaviour" and remain in the neutral position without sidestick input. I searched the FCOM simply i couldn't find whatsoever information almost that so far. can everyone here give me a FCOM reference or some additional information about that (new?) aileron part?
24th Oct 2022, 20:15
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This is what i constitute i my companys fcom. Information technology applies to a A319-111:
"GROUND SPOILER Command
The ground spoiler office involves all spoilers and ailerons (�aileron anti-droop� function)."
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24th Oct 2022, 20:28
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Not familiar with Airbuses generally, merely I know this happens on the larger aircraft such every bit A330 and A340. Perhaps it has been introduced alongside the sharklets on the A320?
25th Oct 2022, 16:xx
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thanks for the replies! interestingly the FCOM of the respective aircrafts states
GROUND SPOILER CONTROL
Spoilers 1 to five act as ground spoilers.
i besides searched the respective FCOM for "anti-droop" without any results. hmmmmmm 
onehundred, tin you maybe give me the the chapter where u found the anti-droop information? thx!
Concluding edited past sierra_mike; 25th Oct 2022 at sixteen:21.
26th Oct 2022, 09:57
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Hi sierra,
Onehundred is referring to a specific modification called the "florence kit" available for A319s and 318s that basically allows the ailerons to raise with the spoilers upon touchdown for improve landing performances on very curt runways (like Florence, Italy). I am not enlightened of the same kit being bachelor for the A320 so far, but perchance somebody will shed some light on that.
Thank you.
26th October 2022, 10:36
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More than just A320's.... Roll to about two:50... This is a 321...
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26th October 2022, 15:13
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31st Oct 2022, 10:04
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And I approximate London metropolis as well?
31st Oct 2022, 10:31
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Non A320 but it'southward interesting how many folk coil out, with aileron input to try & maintain the centre line. All it does is prevent me seeing the speed tape and making the required calls.
I of course know that it'due south non a steering cycle and rolling left won't regain the c/fifty! 
31st October 2022, eleven:03
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Not a problem with a sidestick!
31st Oct 2022, 15:13
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Uplinker - But looked - very surprisingly not! However, at the low landing speeds of the A318 I recon the effect could simply be minor...
31st October 2022, 21:59
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Cough,
Thanks for the video, good illustration !
Totally off-topic, but it was also a good recording of the barking canis familiaris in the wheel well.
19th Feb 2022, 16:17
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question is answered now:
The ailerons are fully-extended, provided one aileron servocontrol is bachelor on each side, when: - The ground spoilers are fully extended
- Flaps are not in clean CONF
- Pitch mental attitude is lower than two.5 �
- Flying manually
- In normal law merely.
Ref: FCOM/DSC/27/10/xx/SPEED BRAKES AND GROUND SPOILERS
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Anything to reduce wing lift in the landing coil of any aircraft has to be good news?
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Any chance this accept anything related to the Load Allevation Command function?
19th Feb 2022, twenty:36
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the load consolation office is intended to relieve structural loads during manoeuvring and gust turbulence.
21st February 2022, 03:47
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You are correct this is aileron anti droop function installed vide MOI 34097 to improve braking effiency during landing, reject takeoff and functioning on short runways.
20th Jun 2022, 10:54
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I'll leave this here more for myself or others who seek a reference.
I could not find this in the FCOM as well, merely this is mentioned in the Service Bulletin on the introduction of the standard 1.9.0 as for 25-Apr-2014 (p. 9):
ELAC L94 to L96:
Basic Aileron up deflection (25˚) at landing for Ground Spoiler efficiency
20th Jun 2022, 12:thirteen
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I noticed well-nigh a yr ago on an airline that I fly regularly that both ailerons would deflect fully upwards on landing ringlet. It didn't used to happen and the airline is not having Airbuses delivered. Therefore, I have been assuming that this is a software modern designed to better landing performance, perhaps more than so on contaminated runways.
I believe that the 787 is doing the same matter just have not seen information technology on the 777.
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"Aileron anti-droop?"
Shoulda called it "aileron perk."
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